2025:Controls

New Rules

• R907 *No AC inverters. OPERATOR CONSOLES must not contain AC inverters.
• The shelf also includes two clips to hold the shelf in place with a 1 in. (~25 mm) by 2 in. (~51 mm) thick tab that

Concept Ideas

Should be less than 29.680in in Length due to the NEW Clips... clam shell may not be ideal

Giants of the Sea Font from fontspace.com

Try to get to 24" instead of 28"

Controller Options:

X-Box: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CQP3LP3T/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A28DYDDFJA7HZ1&th=1

Logitech: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VAHYQY/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Off-Brand PS: https://www.amazon.com/DIANVEN-Controller-Playstation-Windows-Vibration-4/dp/B0C9J8CT1H/ref=sr_1_1?

Handle Grip Options:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/ROCKBROS-Bike-Handlebar-Grips-Foam-Comfortable-Shock-Absorption-Handle-Grips-for-BMX-Mountain-MTB-Beach-Cruiser-Scooter/1083117261?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101072234&gQT=1

https://www.amazon.com/Grips-Foam-Drop-Comfort-Black/dp/B010U5SZ3I/ref=asc_df_B010U5SZ3I?mcid=1bdff52dc5f13e5f9e8d7fe64279526c&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769151405&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17965477672384811053&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1022882&hvtargid=pla-903810009495&psc=1 

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Tubing-Handle-Support-Insulation/dp/B0951YZXFD/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3JEFSBODLNAKI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-vR7mQZ3KeB55lLxmduXRsCCHmZ8lhWrEu8aKueW1WTQMvwt1oO2bOr-L2hrBZn6d2Ut5z43GZntkOyjs6okZ-w3OPG8PeEVgxTaXoSLLhJQfb2KDTpNX7Lun7nA0o9Ycc0Oh2UdeFZiGQ4xzAKTALpowgHGV2INBtm62ptnocMArchH7_4JQWVNE3JSr67X6XFCtYoOeeKG2z4uEaQCdGv3Coe8LWtwlWLZmu48Asdu7CO8ST6VQS8w59DoEUXywjwCRH6M1owPXs1MoKuUh7vwapPEGq-trQjdhZXqkT-Jk8wlzynBKsnygf2oVuRc5f-ZQOIQ0tKjsmtfRW_MExkletzLOFkIkK54U-irW-Q.t0TcIeOQGlBH9g8UFYmDECjHpS9uojPIEeJWA6K2zxw&dib_tag=se&keywords=uxcell+foam+tubing+25mmx35mm&qid=1736717182&s=hi&sprefix=uxcell+foam+tubbing+25mmx35mm%2Ctools%2C64&sr=1-8

Overall Concept

Square Box, One Handle on Each Side, Pop Off Lid

8.5" Foam Grips (Trim Down Later) with round 1" and 1.5" by 3/4" square stock - Drill hole in top half of square stock and inset the round 1" tube and have harris model shop weld the handle.

Design Info

Controller(s): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VAHYQY/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Handle Grip: https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Tubing-Handle-Support-Insulation/dp/B0951YZXFD/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3JEFSBODLNAKI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-vR7mQZ3KeB55lLxmduXRsCCHmZ8lhWrEu8aKueW1WTQMvwt1oO2bOr-L2hrBZn6d2Ut5z43GZntkOyjs6okZ-w3OPG8PeEVgxTaXoSLLhJQfb2KDTpNX7Lun7nA0o9Ycc0Oh2UdeFZiGQ4xzAKTALpowgHGV2INBtm62ptnocMArchH7_4JQWVNE3JSr67X6XFCtYoOeeKG2z4uEaQCdGv3Coe8LWtwlWLZmu48Asdu7CO8ST6VQS8w59DoEUXywjwCRH6M1owPXs1MoKuUh7vwapPEGq-trQjdhZXqkT-Jk8wlzynBKsnygf2oVuRc5f-ZQOIQ0tKjsmtfRW_MExkletzLOFkIkK54U-irW-Q.t0TcIeOQGlBH9g8UFYmDECjHpS9uojPIEeJWA6K2zxw&dib_tag=se&keywords=uxcell+foam+tubing+25mmx35mm&qid=1736717182&s=hi&sprefix=uxcell+foam+tubbing+25mmx35mm%2Ctools%2C64&sr=1-8

Holder Starting Point: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4566917

Not Started

• Determine a method of keeping the top on the box - Will be doing the same method as Stronghold
  • • Find magnetic latches, get them on order.
    • Find flat stock steel for magnets to grab to, see shield for reference.
• Determine plan for camera lens, do we need anything to make it happen (i.e. Lexan)
• Determine plan for the bling, additional tasks to be added
• Get/order parts: AC receptacle, AC cable, RJ45 jack, broken switches, broken switch board, extension cord with multiple outlets, USB Hub, right angle USB adapters, right angle Ethernet adapter if required
• CAD
  
  • • Any other camera controls that we might want to put on the box
    • Bling?
      

In Process

• CAD
  
  • • Bottom box
      
      • • Add wording/fish font
          
        • Notches for the AC power and Ethernet bracket
        • PEM holes for controller holders
          
    • Camera grip/top opening
      
    • Camera Lens
    • Laptop Holder/Broken Switches (may just need to update drawings)
      
      • • Words in Laptop Holder???
    • Controller holder(s)
      

Completed

• Confirmed for three Logitech controllers
• Collaborate and create ideas. Look at past Controls if needed.
• Take measures of computer and controllers being used. Look at 2024 Controls.
• Finalize design for handles
• Figure out what's broken with the controller holder assembly
• CAD
  • • Bottom Box
      • • Increase height for controllers: 4.25"
        • Add notch for keyboard cutout
        • Square cutouts for the handles
        • PEM holes for laptop holder
    • Top (thicker material .093)
    • ReCAD the laptop holder
    • AC power and Ethernet bracket
    • Handles
      • • Cap for the top of the handles
        • End cap for the bottom of the handles
        • Fixed/ Added to the Handle Assembly
• Get controller spacing fixed (2.5" between controller and keep out zone)
• Finalize length: 23.75"

Meeting Minutes

1/4 (KICKOFF!) (Sat)

Attendees: Sami, Byers, Eric

Work Completed:

• Concept drawings started

1/5 (Sun)

Attendees: Sami, Byers, Eric

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• Continued concept drawings
• Looked at NON-Wi-Fi controllers
• Created Wiki page
• Broke Wiki page
• FIXED Wiki page! :)
• Looked and took measures of the new clips on drivers station (see concept ideas)
• Added concepts

1/7 (Tue)

Attendees: Sami

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Sub Team interest form was completed

Added to the To Do, Not Started, and In Process sections

1/8 (Wed)

Attendees: Sami

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Since Sub Teams have not been decided yet, I worked on the Best RoBuddies SOP! :)

1/9 (Thu)

Attendees: Sami, Arlo, Colin, Eric, Byers

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Looked at past controls

Discussed ideas for this year

Look at concepts for this year

Messed with OnShape

Moved 2015-2024 files into Controls Teams

1/11 (Sat)

Attendees: Sami, Colin, Arlo, Oliver, Eric, Byers, Sam

Meeting Minutes:

Continued the process of design on OnShape

Voted on concepts

started cad for bottom and top

Started cad for grip to take off lid

decided on Logitech controller

1/12 (Sun)

Attendees: Sami, Byers

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Looked at controller holders

Looked at handles/ handle grips

Picked out grips with round stock

Picked out and described square stock

1/14 (Tue)

Attendees: Sami, Colin, Arlo, Byers, Eric, Charlie

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Redeigned Controller holder and test printed

Put the handles in CAD

1/15 (Wed)

Attendees: Sami, Eric, Byers

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Fixed and printed Controller Holder

Created Controller Holder Assembly

Continued working on controller holder

1/16 (Thu)

Attendees: Sami, Colin, Arlo

Meeting Minutes:

• Figure out what's broken with the controller holder assembly
• Cap for the top of the handles
• End cap for the bottom of the handles
  
• Increase height for controllers: 4.25"
• Top (thicker material .093)
• ReCAD the laptop holder
• Get controller spacing fixed (2.5" between controller and keep out zone)
• Finalize length: 23.75"
• AC power and Ethernet bracket
• Add notch for keyboard cutout

1/18 (Sat)

Attendees: Sami, Colin

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• End cap for the bottom of the handles
• Fixed/ Added to the Handle Assembly
• Square cutouts for the handles
  
• PEM holes for laptop holder

1/19 (Sun)

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Controls Rules 2025

• 6.3.2 OPERATOR CONSOLES
  DRIVE TEAMS set up their OPERATOR CONSOLE as soon as the DRIVE TEAM from the previous MATCH has
  cleared the area. OPERATOR CONSOLES must be compliant with all relevant rules, specifically those in section
  8.9 OPERATOR CONSOLE. The OPERATOR CONSOLE is plugged into the team’s assigned DRIVER STATION, as
  indicated on the team sign. Any control devices worn or held by their HUMAN PLAYERS and/or DRIVERS during
  the MATCH must be disconnected from or set on or beside the OPERATOR CONSOLE before the MATCH can
  begin. A DRIVE TEAM obstructing or delaying OPERATOR CONSOLE setup is at risk of violating G301.
  For the purposes of FIRST Robotics Competition, any device connected to the
  OPERATOR CONSOLE is considered a control device because REFEREES are not
  expected to differentiate between devices that can or cannot control the ROBOT.
• R904 *OPERATOR CONSOLE physical requirements. The OPERATOR CONSOLE must not

1. be longer than 5 ft. (~152 cm), B. be deeper than 1 ft. 2 in. (~35 cm) (excluding any items that are held or worn by the DRIVERS
   during the MATCH),
   C. extend more than 6 ft. 6 in. (~198 cm) above the floor, or
   D. attach to the FIELD (except via the loop tape as described in section 5.6.1 DRIVER STATIONS).
   There is a 4 ft. 6 in. (~137 cm) long by 2 in. (nominal) wide strip of hook-and-loop
   tape (“loop” side) along the center of the DRIVER STATION support shelf that
   should be used to secure the OPERATOR CONSOLE to the shelf. See section
   5.6.1 DRIVER STATIONS for details.
   Please note that while there is no hard weight limit, OPERATOR CONSOLES that
   weigh more than 30 lbs. (~13 kg.) will invite extra scrutiny as they are likely to
   present unsafe circumstances. 

• R907 *No AC inverters. OPERATOR CONSOLES must not contain AC inverters

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