2024:Controls

PROs and CONs List from previous years:

• PROs:
  • • Retractable handles
    • Any other latches than roller latches
    • Long hinges
    • MEASURING correctly!:)
• CONs:
  • • Roller latches (they can't hold weight)
    • Zippers (they break)

Overall Concept:

• PEM studs, gel grips, felt grips, or screw in grips
• Guided pieces for closer
  
• Speakers (2) and mesh on front
  
• Laptop Stand 2" high
• Amy said that L3Harris can weld the curve for us!
• 17" by 14"
• 8 inches for Controllers to lay flat (PS5)
  
  • • make clips to hold in place
• Fixed handle
  • • Latch underneath?
• On other side of contolers:
  • • CD on top with the sliders/butons/knobs below

Concept Drawings/Ideas:

• Paint splatter? again
• Amp, speaker, or road case as the actual box
  • • 3D printed nobs
    • handle
    • reuse/improve controller cord holder (only if PS5)
    • Team name in the CREScenDO outline?
    • Controls paper for laptop
      
    • Chicken wire to resemble mesh
    • Fake 1511 CDs

Design Info:

CADed parts:

• Amp Box:
• Speaker:
• Laptop Stand:
• Speaker Curve:

3D printed parts:

• Controller Cord Holder: Refine 2023s
• Latches for Controllers: 
• Needle for CD: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2821245

Bling:

• CD: Byers?
  
• Paint for said CD: Sami? (Unless need special paint)
• Black Spray Paint: Byers?
• Mesh: Have already
  
• Sliders:https://www.amazon.com/DAOKI-Logarithmic-Potentiometer-Arduino-Electronic/dp/B08SLPV4VD/ref=sr_1_19?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.TPGHYcRx8gEp9Qu1J2X4ad3zPT6v9ROndBU2d8Z86z7GjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.rzujEJDQiAoS6N6jHZHtdidER6KmgsBBf9haxaxN7Fk&dib_tag=se&keywords=Slide+Potentiometer&qid=1705260984&sr=8-19
• Buttons (Push): Have
• Knobs: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Aluminium-Potentiometer-Control-Knob-Guitar-Knobs-Amp-Volume-Potentiometer-Knob/3580995057?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101121017 
• Handel: 
• Buttons (Switches): Have
• Hinge: https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Continuous-Hinge-Bright-Annealed/dp/B07S85MT9G/ref=asc_df_B07S85MT9G/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=673687118827&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8210718651493454702&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1022882&hvtargid=pla-2203756691906&mcid=1d09b215000b371ea1ed399b883ea19d&th=1
• Latches: https://www.amazon.com/Penn-Elcom-L905-915Z-Butterfly-Latch/dp/B0006MZM8C/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3L3JKQUI3382C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ikSRrhyztVV-cwtSOgsL5N9MQrj0yXdkknYo9O295nbGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.UrzAt-NcigkVOzg1_JWikJXfYB5BwhpCTs_2GFVoQRo&dib_tag=se&keywords=L905%2F915Z&qid=1705276754&s=hi&sprefix=l905%2F915z%2Ctools%2C87&sr=1-1&th=1
  • • https://www.amazon.com/Reliable-Hardware-Company-RH-A3020BK-Butterfly/dp/B00JQYUEAC/ref=asc_df_B00JQYUEAC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=193151859311&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7275364316301943114&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1022882&hvtargid=pla-311878510313&psc=1&mcid=c0c715df6e843da9a6691f7002e846ab&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1aSI7svWgwMVIElHAR18AwwSEAQYCSABEgISdvD_BwE
• Grippies: 

To-Do:

• Practice on roller machine
• Look at buttons, handles, latches, etc...
• Tweak controller design from 2023
• CAD the controls

Not Started:

• Practice on roller machine
• Look at buttons, handles, latches, etc...
• Tweak controller design from 2023
• CAD the controls

In Process:

• CAD the controls

Completed:

• Added sections to the 2024: Controls page
• Read and added Driver Station specs and the rules for the controls
• Linked game manual to "Controls Rules 2024:" section
• Added all Build Season dates to page
• PROs and CONs list from previous years
• Brainstorm ideas for controls
• What kind of controllers do they want?- Ask (Main) Sasha, Coleston, Calla, Morgan (2nd) Sophia, Nadia

Meeting Minutes:

1/6 (KICKOFF!) (Sat)

Attendees: Sami, Lisa

Work Completed:

• Added sections to the 2024: Controls page
• Read and added Driver Station specs and the rules for the controls
• Linked game manual to "Controls Rules 2024:" section
• Started brainstorming different ideas for controls
• Started a PROs and CONs list from previous years
• Created a Concept Drawing/I Don't Knows/Concerns
• Added all Build Season dates to page

1/7 (Sun)

Attendees: Sami, Byers, Eric, Sophia

Work Completed:

• Created some more concept designs
• Took apart two old Control Cases
• Finished PROs and CONs list

1/9 (Tue)

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1/10 (Wed) Attendees: Sami, Byers Work Completed:

• Looked deeper into the controls design
• Asked Sasha what controllers; she then asked Calla; waiting now

1/11 (Thu)

Attendees: Sami, Monika, Geoff

Work Completed:

• Added to the Design Info section, about bling, CAD, and 3D prints
• Geoff attempted to help attempt CAD the controls
• PS5s are being used: confirmed by Sasha and Calla
• Added some links to items that will be needed and others
• CADed a curve and a almost box

1/13 (Sat) (INTERGRATION @ 11:30am!)

Attendees: Sami, Erin, Byers, Monika, Robert

Work Completed:

• Sami CADed like a pro:)
• Prepared for Intergration
  • • They would like the controls to be smaller than 2023
• Discused the final design
• Started assembly/CAD

1/14 (Sun)

Attendees: Sami, Byers, Eric

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• Created notches for the hinge
• Notch for Hinge and Latch
• Holes for Laptop and Bling

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Controls Rules 2024: https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2024/Manual/2024GameManual.pdf

A DRIVER STATION is 1 of 3 assemblies within an ALLIANCE WALL behind which a DRIVE TEAM operates their
ROBOT. Each DRIVER STATION is made from a 3 ft. ¾ in. (~93 cm) tall diamond plate base topped with a 3 ft. 6 in. (~107 cm) tall transparent plastic sheet and a top rail. An aluminum shelf is attached to each DRIVER
STATION to support an OPERATOR CONSOLE. The shelf is 5 ft. 9 in. (~175 cm) wide and 1 ft. ¼ in. (~31 cm)
deep. There is a 4 ft. 6 in. (~137 cm) long by 2 in. (nominal) wide strip of hook-and-loop tape (“loop” side)
along the center of the support shelf that may be used to secure the OPERATOR CONSOLE to the shelf.

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R901 *Use the specified Driver Station Software. The Driver Station Software provided by National
Instruments (install instructions found here) is the only application permitted to specify and
communicate the operating mode (i.e. AUTO/TELEOP) and operating state (Enable/Disable) to the
ROBOT. The Driver Station Software must be version 24.1 or newer.
[Teams are permitted to use a portable computing device of their choice (laptop
computer, tablet, etc.) to host the Driver Station Software while participating in
MATCHES.] 

R902 *The OPERATOR CONSOLE must have a visible display. The OPERATOR CONSOLE, the set of
COMPONENTS and MECHANISMS used by the DRIVERS and/or HUMAN PLAYERS to relay commands
to the ROBOT, must include a graphic display to present the Driver Station Software diagnostic
information. It must be positioned within the OPERATOR CONSOLE so that the screen display can be
clearly seen during inspection and in a MATCH.

R903 *Connect FMS Ethernet directly to the OPERATOR CONSOLE. Devices hosting the Driver Station
Software must only interface with the FMS via the Ethernet cable provided at the DRIVER STATION (e.g.
not through a switch). Teams may connect the FMS Ethernet cable to the device running the Driver
Station Software directly via an Ethernet pigtail, or with a single-port Ethernet converter (e.g. docking
station, USB-Ethernet converter, Thunderbolt-Ethernet converter, etc.). The Ethernet port on the
OPERATOR CONSOLE must be easily and quickly accessible.
[Teams are strongly encouraged to use pigtails on the Ethernet port used to
connect to the FMS. Such pigtails will reduce wear and tear on the device’s port
and, with proper strain relief employed, will protect the port from accidental
damage.]

R904 *OPERATOR CONSOLE physical requirements. The OPERATOR CONSOLE must not
A. be longer than 5 ft. (~152 cm),
B. be deeper than 1 ft. 2 in. (~35 cm) (excluding any items that are held or worn by the DRIVERS
during the MATCH),
C. extend more than 6 ft. 6 in. (~198 cm) above the floor, or
D. attach to the FIELD (except via the loop tape as described in Section 5.6.2 DRIVER STATIONS).
[There is a 4 ft. 6 in. (~137 cm) long by 2 in. (nominal) wide strip of hook-and-loop
tape (“loop” side) along the center of the DRIVER STATION support shelf that
should be used to secure the OPERATOR CONSOLE to the shelf. See Section
5.6.2 DRIVER STATIONS for details.
Please note that while there is no hard weight limit, OPERATOR CONSOLES that
weigh more than 30 lbs. (~13 kg.) will invite extra scrutiny as they are likely to
present unsafe circumstances.]

R905 *FIELD wireless only. Other than the system provided by the FIELD, no other form of wireless
communications shall be used to communicate to, from, or within the OPERATOR CONSOLE.
[Examples of prohibited wireless systems include, but are not limited to, active
wireless network cards and Bluetooth devices. For the case of the FIRST
Robotics Competition, a motion sensing input device (e.g. Microsoft Kinect) is
not considered wireless communication and is allowed.]

R906 *No unsafe OPERATOR CONSOLES. OPERATOR CONSOLES shall not be made using hazardous
materials, be unsafe, cause an unsafe condition, or interfere with other DRIVE TEAMS or the operation
of other ROBOTS.

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