2025:Controls

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New Rules

  • R907 *No AC inverters. OPERATOR CONSOLES must not contain AC inverters.
  • The shelf also includes two clips to hold the shelf in place with a 1 in. (~25 mm) by 2 in. (~51 mm) thick tab that

DO NOT DELETE: Creating a Sheet Metal Part in OnShape for the L3Harris Model Shop

Overall Concept

Dive Camera

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Square Box (20" x 13.75"), One Handle on Each Side (8.5" Foam Grips ~1" round)

Pop Off Lid

Overall width: ~26"

Handles: 8.5" Foam Grips (Trim Down Later) with round 1" and 1.5" by 3/4" square stock


- Drill hole in top half of square stock and inset the round 1" tube and have harris model shop weld the handle.

DO NOT DELETE: Creating a Sheet Metal Part in OnShape for the L3Harris Model Shop

Concept Ideas

Should be less than 29.680in in Length due to the NEW Clips... clam shell may not be ideal

Giants of the Sea Font from fontspace.com

Try to get to 24" instead of 28"


Controller Options:

X-Box: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CQP3LP3T/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A28DYDDFJA7HZ1&th=1

Logitech: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VAHYQY/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Off-Brand PS: https://www.amazon.com/DIANVEN-Controller-Playstation-Windows-Vibration-4/dp/B0C9J8CT1H/ref=sr_1_1?


Handle Grip Options:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/ROCKBROS-Bike-Handlebar-Grips-Foam-Comfortable-Shock-Absorption-Handle-Grips-for-BMX-Mountain-MTB-Beach-Cruiser-Scooter/1083117261?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101072234&gQT=1

https://www.amazon.com/Grips-Foam-Drop-Comfort-Black/dp/B010U5SZ3I/ref=asc_df_B010U5SZ3I?mcid=1bdff52dc5f13e5f9e8d7fe64279526c&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769151405&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17965477672384811053&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1022882&hvtargid=pla-903810009495&psc=1 

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Tubing-Handle-Support-Insulation/dp/B0951YZXFD/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3JEFSBODLNAKI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-vR7mQZ3KeB55lLxmduXRsCCHmZ8lhWrEu8aKueW1WTQMvwt1oO2bOr-L2hrBZn6d2Ut5z43GZntkOyjs6okZ-w3OPG8PeEVgxTaXoSLLhJQfb2KDTpNX7Lun7nA0o9Ycc0Oh2UdeFZiGQ4xzAKTALpowgHGV2INBtm62ptnocMArchH7_4JQWVNE3JSr67X6XFCtYoOeeKG2z4uEaQCdGv3Coe8LWtwlWLZmu48Asdu7CO8ST6VQS8w59DoEUXywjwCRH6M1owPXs1MoKuUh7vwapPEGq-trQjdhZXqkT-Jk8wlzynBKsnygf2oVuRc5f-ZQOIQ0tKjsmtfRW_MExkletzLOFkIkK54U-irW-Q.t0TcIeOQGlBH9g8UFYmDECjHpS9uojPIEeJWA6K2zxw&dib_tag=se&keywords=uxcell+foam+tubing+25mmx35mm&qid=1736717182&s=hi&sprefix=uxcell+foam+tubbing+25mmx35mm%2Ctools%2C64&sr=1-8

Design Info

Controller(s): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VAHYQY/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Handle Grip: https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Tubing-Handle-Support-Insulation/dp/B0951YZXFD/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3JEFSBODLNAKI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-vR7mQZ3KeB55lLxmduXRsCCHmZ8lhWrEu8aKueW1WTQMvwt1oO2bOr-L2hrBZn6d2Ut5z43GZntkOyjs6okZ-w3OPG8PeEVgxTaXoSLLhJQfb2KDTpNX7Lun7nA0o9Ycc0Oh2UdeFZiGQ4xzAKTALpowgHGV2INBtm62ptnocMArchH7_4JQWVNE3JSr67X6XFCtYoOeeKG2z4uEaQCdGv3Coe8LWtwlWLZmu48Asdu7CO8ST6VQS8w59DoEUXywjwCRH6M1owPXs1MoKuUh7vwapPEGq-trQjdhZXqkT-Jk8wlzynBKsnygf2oVuRc5f-ZQOIQ0tKjsmtfRW_MExkletzLOFkIkK54U-irW-Q.t0TcIeOQGlBH9g8UFYmDECjHpS9uojPIEeJWA6K2zxw&dib_tag=se&keywords=uxcell+foam+tubing+25mmx35mm&qid=1736717182&s=hi&sprefix=uxcell+foam+tubbing+25mmx35mm%2Ctools%2C64&sr=1-8

Holder Starting Point: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4566917

Magnet Latches: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C3H467SW/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9ocXBfc2hhcmVk&th=1

To-Do

Not Started

  • Determine plan for camera lens, do we need anything to make it happen (i.e. Lexan)
      • Flash?
      • Knob?
      • Smaller Lens
  • Determine plan for the bling, additional tasks to be added
  • Get/order parts: AC receptacle, AC cable, RJ45 jack, broken switches, broken switch board, extension cord with multiple outlets, USB Hub, right angle USB adapters, right angle Ethernet adapter if required, Prototype Board
  • CAD
      • Any other camera controls that we might want to put on the box
      • Bling?
  • Pick paint scheme

In Process

  • CAD
      • Camera grip/top opening (Holes for screws) (1511?)
      • Camera Lens (Holes for screws)
      • Finish Top
          • Fill cut out in front (and maybe back) (use proper bend allowence due to thicker metal)
          • PEM Studs for magnets
      • Laptop Drawing

Completed

  • Confirmed for three Logitech controllers
  • Collaborate and create ideas. Look at past Controls if needed.
  • Take measures of computer and controllers being used. Look at 2024 Controls.
  • Finalize design for handles
  • Figure out what's broken with the controller holder assembly
  • CAD
      • Bottom Box
          • Increase height for controllers: 4.25"
          • Add notch for keyboard cutout
          • Square cutouts for the handles
          • PEM holes for laptop holder
          • Notches for the AC power and Ethernet bracket
          • PEM holes for controller holders
          • fish font
      • Top (thicker material .093)
      • Laptop Holder/Broken Switches (may just need to update drawings)
      • ReCAD the laptop holder
      • AC power and Ethernet bracket
      • Controller holder(s)
      • Handles
          • Cap for the top of the handles
          • End cap for the bottom of the handles
          • Fixed/ Added to the Handle Assembly
      • Words in Laptop holder: DIVE
  • Get controller spacing fixed
  • Finalize length: 20"
  • Determine a method of keeping the top on the box - Will be doing the same method as Stronghold
      • Find magnetic latches, get them on order. (Look in Design Info)

Meeting Minutes

1/4 (KICKOFF!) (Sat)

Attendees: Sami, Byers, Eric

Work Completed:

  • Concept drawings started

1/5 (Sun)

Attendees: Sami, Byers, Eric

Meeting Minutes:

  • Continued concept drawings
  • Looked at NON-Wi-Fi controllers
  • Created Wiki page
  • Broke Wiki page
  • FIXED Wiki page! :)
  • Looked and took measures of the new clips on drivers station (see concept ideas)
  • Added concepts

1/7 (Tue)

Attendees: Sami

Meeting Minutes:

  • Sub Team interest form was completed
  • Added to the To Do, Not Started, and In Process sections

    • 1/8 (Wed)

    Attendees: Sami

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  • Since Sub Teams have not been decided yet, I worked on the Best RoBuddies SOP! :)

    • 1/9 (Thu)

    Attendees: Sami, Arlo, Colin, Eric, Byers

    Meeting Minutes:

  • Looked at past controls
  • Discussed ideas for this year
  • Look at concepts for this year
  • Messed with OnShape
  • Moved 2015-2024 files into Controls Teams

    • 1/11 (Sat)

    Attendees: Sami, Colin, Arlo, Oliver, Eric, Byers, Sam

    Meeting Minutes:

  • Continued the process of design on OnShape
  • Voted on concepts
  • started cad for bottom and top
  • Started cad for grip to take off lid
  • decided on Logitech controller

    • 1/12 (Sun)

    Attendees: Sami, Byers

    Meeting Minutes:

  • Looked at controller holders
  • Looked at handles/ handle grips
  • Picked out grips with round stock
  • Picked out and described square stock

    • 1/14 (Tue)

    Attendees: Sami, Colin, Arlo, Byers, Eric, Charlie

    Meeting Minutes:

  • Redeigned Controller holder and test printed
  • Put the handles in CAD

    • 1/15 (Wed)

    Attendees: Sami, Eric, Byers

    Meeting Minutes:

  • Fixed and printed Controller Holder
  • Created Controller Holder Assembly
  • Continued working on controller holder

    • 1/16 (Thu)

    Attendees: Sami, Colin, Arlo

    Meeting Minutes:

    • Figure out what's broken with the controller holder assembly
    • Cap for the top of the handles
    • End cap for the bottom of the handles
    • Increase height for controllers: 4.25"
    • Top (thicker material .093)
    • ReCAD the laptop holder
    • Get controller spacing fixed (2.5" between controller and keep out zone)
    • Finalize length: 23.75"
    • AC power and Ethernet bracket
    • Add notch for keyboard cutout

    1/18 (Sat)

    Attendees: Sami, Colin, Oliver, Byers

    Meeting Minutes:

    • End cap for the bottom of the handles
    • Fixed/ Added to the Handle Assembly
    • Square cutouts for the handles
    • PEM holes for laptop holder
    • Notches for the AC power and Ethernet bracket
    • PEM holes for controller holders
    • Found magnetic latches
    • Laptop Holder/Broken Switches (may just need to update drawings)
    • Controller holder(s)
    • Determine a method of keeping the top on the box - Will be doing the same method as Stronghold
        • Find magnetic latches, get them on order. (Look in Design Info)

    1/19 (Sun)

    Attendees: Sami, Byers, Colin, Eric

    Meeting Minutes:

    • Bottom box
        • fish fonts with lots of fishy water fish
        • Words in Laptop holder: DIVE
    • 🏆MILESTONE - HANDLES COMLETED🏆
        • machined handle bar and pole in shop
        • drawings, except laptop tray, are done
        • 3d printed parts - perfecto
        • finished magnet integration with other components

    1/21 (Tue)

    Attendees: Sami, Colin, Arlo

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  • Created/Refined more To - Do lists items

    • 1/22 (Wed)

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    Controls Rules 2025

    • 6.3.2 OPERATOR CONSOLES
      DRIVE TEAMS set up their OPERATOR CONSOLE as soon as the DRIVE TEAM from the previous MATCH has
      cleared the area. OPERATOR CONSOLES must be compliant with all relevant rules, specifically those in section
      8.9 OPERATOR CONSOLE. The OPERATOR CONSOLE is plugged into the team’s assigned DRIVER STATION, as
      indicated on the team sign. Any control devices worn or held by their HUMAN PLAYERS and/or DRIVERS during
      the MATCH must be disconnected from or set on or beside the OPERATOR CONSOLE before the MATCH can
      begin. A DRIVE TEAM obstructing or delaying OPERATOR CONSOLE setup is at risk of violating G301.
      For the purposes of FIRST Robotics Competition, any device connected to the
      OPERATOR CONSOLE is considered a control device because REFEREES are not
      expected to differentiate between devices that can or cannot control the ROBOT.
    • R904 *OPERATOR CONSOLE physical requirements. The OPERATOR CONSOLE must not
    1. be longer than 5 ft. (~152 cm), B. be deeper than 1 ft. 2 in. (~35 cm) (excluding any items that are held or worn by the DRIVERS
      during the MATCH),
      C. extend more than 6 ft. 6 in. (~198 cm) above the floor, or
      D. attach to the FIELD (except via the loop tape as described in section 5.6.1 DRIVER STATIONS).
      There is a 4 ft. 6 in. (~137 cm) long by 2 in. (nominal) wide strip of hook-and-loop
      tape (“loop” side) along the center of the DRIVER STATION support shelf that
      should be used to secure the OPERATOR CONSOLE to the shelf. See section
      5.6.1 DRIVER STATIONS for details.
      Please note that while there is no hard weight limit, OPERATOR CONSOLES that
      weigh more than 30 lbs. (~13 kg.) will invite extra scrutiny as they are likely to
      present unsafe circumstances. 
    • R907 *No AC inverters. OPERATOR CONSOLES must not contain AC inverters


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